lifeblood out of europe and the u.s. as an export led economy, it's going down the tubes. guess what? it drags all the commodity nations down with it, australia, canada, brazil and russia. what we need to recognize. i heard terry talking about steel manufacturing as being old school and things like that. germany has 25% of their labor force in manufacturing compared to only 9%. manufacturing today means high technology manufacturing, which we need to be doing. if the middle class is going to survive, john is absolutely right, we need more of stem education, science, engineering, math, technology. there is a clear path to solving this problem. it basically must recognize we have to start producing as much or more than we consume. this whole thing about going to the walmart, yeah, it's cheap there but we have to understand the consequences. >> let me ask you about this.